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The only one that's recent that I know of is Serizawa Miyu from August's latest VN, Daitoshokan no Hitsujikai. Perfect Chaos@whb
She was also Kaoru Tanamachi (Amagami SS; worked out just fine) and Haruka Minami (Minami-ke). bobI was really looking forward to seeing how well they would put the psychological stress that Misaka is being put under. Good job so fa... Jiro
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DDL2: http://rapidgator.net/file/20880679
DDL3: http://filefactory.com/file/4lc19nwd2owx
love ya guys :)
Thanks so much!
2:45 am? Well, it's time for some Mazui subs! :P
Alas, I'm stuck in a hotel room for the nex 3 days with only my phone, so I'll have to wait for the good Penguin-kun to deliver his MP4s.
You guys should definitely consider picking up Sword Art Online for july =).
Waiting for 480p. zzz~~
Thanks in advance Penguin-kun, and/or whoever else does a re-encode and throws the link up here in the next few hours.
DDL1: http://filevelocity.com/4ftj1l6cfoql
DDL2: http://filefactory.com/file/521nmzc622yr
DDL3: http://depositfiles.com/files/21kshsv4o
Mazui should resume the Did You Know? section, for Yukana only.
Hura Mazuisub ~
http://depositfiles.com/files/28ctlr3dr
305mb mp4. Enjoy.
http://www34.brinkster.com/dizzyk/index.html
If you don't know, CRC32s are those 8 char hex codes in brackets (like [1017F557]) placed at the end of torrent file names by uploaders who know what they're doing. Check the file you have against the listed CRC32 and see if they match. If not, redownload.
And if you can cleave out .ass files and remerge then change the initial exchange with Iris to read: 'Every gifted individual must 'gnothi seauton'. If not, those who watch them in action N think of themselves as fools.' That Iris is one smart calculating kid. ^^
Nightmares of turtle NTR can keep a penguin up at night...
Apollon ep 11's re-encode doesn't seem to be up yet. Was there a problem, or did you just not have the time?
My bad
But more importantly, why didn't the murder victim scream out after having his forearm lopped off? Maybe he was first strangled ninja-style (with the rope) and had his right hand severed (with maybe glass) then with the room key forced between dead fingers the murderer used this grisly contrivance to lock the door thereby concealing his fingerprints. Nah... ^^
Instead of lowering herself down behind the building where everyone could see her and where she was blocked off by a closed window, she could have easily lowered herself into the side dressing room where the window was busted out and no one would have been able to see her.
- Here's the weakest part of my argument -
For the locked room issue: Kuonosu's eagerness to point out the place to stay, her quick response to the locked room issue, and her uncanny knowledge of where the office + keys are, I think this was a pre-meditated murder where she had actually been to the mansion before. She had switched the key for left stage off the master key ring for the lighting room. She also purposely placed left stage nearest to kaito (although this doesn't guarantee him picking that key) - she does also quickly choose her key after kaito (making sure no one else can take the duplicate left stage key). When everyone notices the door is locked, Kounosu and Senoue go get the master key - Senoue doesn't know the master key looks like since she never entered the office. When the door is being unlocked, despite the master key being a keyring - it doesn't jingle and it seems like it is a singular key. It wouldn't be unusual to say that Kuonosu got to the office first, picked up the master key ring, and then instead of giving that to whoever opened the door, gave her duplicate key instead.
I wonder how far off this hypothesis is...
For other details you can use your imagination: when camera stops, operator goes outside to take a leak, etc. And notice how the particular key used by victim one was tossed in his direction.
And for OCD types out there, remember that Christie admitted she modeled Poirot after Holmes. ^^
The rope. Can't it just be the culprit (cameraman) was going to hang themselves after killing everyone, or whoever he intended to kill? It's not that simple...is it?
Simple I say, ...yet I couldn't figure it out earlier. :(
> Kounosu pointed out the place to stay and knew where the office was despite it being unlabeled.
Actually, it is labeled on the map, it's in japanese, but it's there.
> She's also the one to point out where the map is.
Anyone could have pointed it, yes, it is strange because she pass a cold feeling, but the map wasn't hidden or anything.
> And when the fact that the rooms will 'probably' be locked, she quickly chimes in to say 'It's ok.'
Here. This is strange, she seems secure of what she have said, but remember, you can't take their perfomances into account.
> Instead of lowering herself down behind the building where everyone could see her and where she was blocked off by a closed window, she could have easily lowered herself into the side dressing room where the window was busted out and no one would have been able to see her.
You kinda share some of my theory here. Both Dressing Rooms had the windows opened. She could have used any.
he had switched the key for left stage off the master key ring for the lighting room. She also purposely placed left stage nearest to kaito (although this doesn't guarantee him picking that key) - she does also quickly choose her key after kaito (making sure no one else can take the duplicate left stage key).
> This goes against Knox's Decalogue and the 20 Rules of Van Dine. Also, the Master Keys and normal keys have different keychains.
@ichigo: Problem with your theory is related above.
I question myself 2 things. Why the murder actually needs to get the Master Key and how the keys randomly choosen by everyone, perfectly matches the doors of the places that they randomly chose to go.
Can you understand me?
I: Why they need to get the Master Key first? Kaitou locked himself in the room when he was checking it?
> No, the murderer took it to lock the room after the murder.
So, the killer really thought that no one was going to check it? Really?
II: Only Kounosu and Sugimura knew about the keys. Kounosu got the keys and made it available in a way so that everyone could choose any key. They got it randomly, as Haba stated. So, they splitted up, each one to a different place. And they successfully managed to open the doors of their randomly chosen places. Really?
Haba stated that it wasn't a premeditated murder exactly because there wasn't a way for the murderer to know which key and which place Kaitou would have choose to go. That's why I believe it was premeditated.
There is 15 doors in total, 15 places for 15 keys. Kounosu only found 6 normal keys and there was 6 more keys, that according to her, could be the Master Keys.
What I have in mind is, someone, probably Kounosu, went to the place before and changed the keys. Sugimura was the one that knew about Narakubo's localization and was "leading" the way for the group, as Senoue seems to state in the beginning of the movie. Kounosu was the one that pointed out the place for them to check.
Do you understand now? The keys were changed, the murderer wouldn't have a problem for which place, key or shit that Kaitou or the other would choose. Any key would open any door, that's why they successfully managed to open the doors to the places they've chose randomly. So, knowing that Kaitou went to Stage Left, there was only a matter of getting there without being to seen to kill him. Sugimura had a privileged place, he could have seen anyone who tried to walk by the main lobby. After him, only Kounosu had advantage, since she could walk by her side of the floor without being seen by anyone, also, her side had the windows that lead to the Dressing Rooms on Kaitou's side. The windows were opened in each Dressing Rooms, she could have used a rope to get in any of them, then got back by the same rope.
The problem with my theory: I didn't spent much thought much on it, hah. The problem is that Kounosu didn't knew a way to know if Kaitou where checking a determined room, so she would need to rely on luck for it, no? She just would need to kill Kaitou with a shard of glass, maybe a knife (probably it, glass can't cut that way...), stabbing him and cutting his arm after or something like it.
> Yeah, man, nice, but what about that part on when Kounosu go to get the key with Senoue? And why she would cut his arm?
Bang. As we saw, looks like Katsuta didn't have to try any of the 6 Master Keys, she just used on key, and Kounosu was the one who decided to get the Master Key. Why? Because she was the one that knew about the exchanged keys, so she just needed to get the correct normal key for that room, but Senoue going with her kind of deny this, because, c'mon, Senoue needs to be really dumb to not perceive that Kounosu only got one key to Katsuta, and if she have took the entire bunch of keys, I think that someone would perceive that she only needed to give one key to Katsuta, the correct key to open the door to Stage Left. But remember, this entire shit was cutted, so it could probably be true, I don't know.
About the arm, well, this is what seems off. I have another theory where this matches, but it goes against the premeditated stuff I've thought so far.
Also, why she would need to lock the door after the murder? Why? If she really killed someone, she would be in a hurry, no? This make us think how far Hongou went with the realism.
Another thing, according with what we've watched on episode 9, the minutes of the meeting suggested that the modus operandi would be a stabbing and 2 murderers.
I'm just going to leave it here because I'm too lazy to type any other theory I have, and I really hope that it helps someone to discover it, well, if it's really possible.
Even if it was labeled on the map - without orienting yourself (there is no 'YOU ARE HERE' spot on it) or never having been somewhere before, would you be able to figure out which room you went to only by quickly glancing at it once? Especially if the room was unmarked?
You cleaned up my duplicate key theory nicely with your thought about the master keys, however isn't it unusual to have a ring of master keys if they all open every door? I think it's only a master key cause it has a duplicate copy of all the room keys - the entire keyring qualifies as 'master key.' At least that's what I was thinking.
I also noticed the minutes that mentions the 2 murderers (or the votes that the class had taken for how the killing would occur, how many criminals, etc.) Wouldn't 2 murderers go against Van Dine's rules?
And honestly, about the lobbed off arm - I don't think that was scripted. I think Kaitou wasn't supposed to have his arm chopped off; he was probably just supposed to get stabbed. This is supported by what's said in ep 9 during the interviews I believe.
Oh, and so far I don't think anyone's addressed the 7th person other than Houtarou with his 'failed' theory. Or so we think...
The Rule: There must be but one culprit, no matter how many murders are committed. The culprit may, of course, have a minor helper or co-plotter.
I have this same doubt about the arm too.
I always thought that the detective would be the 7th person, as Irisu said about Tougaito. Maybe, for being pretty smart and for pointing things out, Kounosu could play the detective role. Hongou said "Good luck!" to her, it can be taken as a encouragement, since she would play a major role in the movie. I can't say for sure.
And yeah, there's this thing about the theory, 6 master keys are really weird, heh. I thought about something similar, maybe even better, but I just finished downloading episode 11, so...
Thanks, anyway.